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Truth About Translation
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Three Programs
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About Translating
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And Interpreting
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This presentation
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consists of three parts:
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1. Translation and Translators:
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Quotations Through the Ages
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2. Famous Translation Bloopers
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By Man and Computer
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3. A Semi-Humorous Theory
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Of Language and Translation
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The author of these
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programs is Alex
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Gross, Adjunct Lecturer
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on Translation History,
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NYU Post-Graduate
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Translation Studies
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Program. This abridged
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version is being made
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available for
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non-commercial purposes
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free of charge
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as "Shareware,"
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provided no attempt is
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made to alter the program,
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and all its files are
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kept together as a
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single unit. As is
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customary with such
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Shareware presentations,
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it is nonetheless
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protected by Copyright Law
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and cannot be used for
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any commercial purpose
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beyond what is presented
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in the file VENDINFO.DIZ.
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You can view each
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section of this program
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individually by selecting
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it from the menu.
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You can also elect
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to view the entire program
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in its original order
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by selecting the option
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"View the Entire Program."
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You can print out
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the entire text
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of this program
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from the file
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ALLTEXT.ASC
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or view this file
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at your leisure
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inside your word processor.
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By all means make
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copies of this free
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Shareware version of
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"Truth About Translation"
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and give them to your
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friends or post them
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in zipped form on
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local Bulletin Boards.
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The author is a member
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of the Association of
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Shareware Professionals (ASP)
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and supports their standards.
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Please read the ASP Ombudsman
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Statement in the file
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README.1ST. He is also a
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member of the Educational
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Software Collective (ESC).
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You can download
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the latest version of
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this Shareware version
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at any time from
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http://www.a-direct.com/
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and from many other
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Netlinks and Bulletin
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Board Services.
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You can order the full
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Registration Version
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online via CompuServe on
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the SWREG Forum (GO SWREG)
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or directly from the author,
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as is explained
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in the file ORDER.DOC.
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NOTICE:
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What follows is intended
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for educational purposes
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only. Although many
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points of view
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and statements of opinion
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are presented, none
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of these necessarily
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represents the views
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of the author.
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TRANSLATION AND TRANSLATORS:
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Quotations Through The Ages
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From Ancient Sumeria
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To Molecular Biology
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This section presents
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quotations by many famous
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or obscure authorities
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on translation over
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more than two millennia.
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It will be seen that many
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of the same observations
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and/or confusions
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about translation arise
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throughout these many years.
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Fully one-half of these
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quotations do not appear in
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major texts on translation
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history, and only a small
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fraction appears in any
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single treatment. Works on
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linguistics tend to ignore
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them altogether. Ironically,
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many have never before been
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translated into English.
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Is the following
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the world's first
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untranslatable pun?
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In Genesis, Eve springs
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from Adam's "rib." But
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this is a pun in the
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original Sumerian version,
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where the word "ti" means
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both "rib" and "life-giving."
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The story continues...
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When the Sumerian Adam
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was ill, he was given a
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goddess meaning both
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"Rib-Lady" and "Life-Giving
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Lady." Only the meaning
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"rib" was translatable
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into Hebrew.
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--Book of Genesis, ca. 1400 B.C.
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Words, like arrows,
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speak to the wise;
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but most people
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need interpreters.
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--Pindar, ca. 469 B.C.
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I did not translate
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them as an interpreter
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but as an orator...not
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word for word (verbum
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pro verbo), but I preserved
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the general style
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and force of the language.
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--Marcus Tullius Cicero, 46 B.C.
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To translate Greek
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into Latin our old orators
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thought to be a very
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excellent exercise...As
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to figures of speech,
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by which language is
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principally ornamented,
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we may be under the
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necessity of inventing
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a great number and
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variety of them, because
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the Roman tongue
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differs greatly from
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that of the Greeks.
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--Quintilian, ca. 95 A.D.
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"The Father of Latin Grammar"
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At the same time,
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what they may miss
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in reading,
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they cannot avoid
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in translating.
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From this process
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intelligence and judgment
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are acquired.
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--Pliny the Younger, 105 A.D.
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Terms when translated
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do not always preserve
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the same meaning; and
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every nation has certain
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idioms impossible to
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express intelligently
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to others. You may
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possibly translate them,
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but they no longer
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preserve the same force.
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--Iamblichus of Chalcis, ca. 330
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Hellenistic Scholar & Mystic
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Since my youth,
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it is not words,
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but ideas,
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which I have translated.
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--Saint Jerome, ca. 404
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Translation from one
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language into another,
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if it is carried out
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word for word, hides
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the meaning; it is
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like overly vigorous
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weeds that would
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smother the seed-bed.
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--Evagrius, cited
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by Saint Jerome, ca. 404
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The Translator Moses ben
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Ezra Tells His Tale
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One of the most famous
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Islamic scholars once
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asked me to recite
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the Ten Commandments
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in the Arabic tongue.
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I understood his
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intention, which was
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none other than to
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find fault with how
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it would sound. But
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I had a reply for him.
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I asked him to recite
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the opening passage
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from the Koran for me
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in the Ladino of Granada,
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which he knew quite well.
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He started to do so.
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But when he tried, his
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translation was poor,
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and the words spoiled
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the beauty of the passage.
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He stopped suddenly and
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could recite no more.
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He then understood
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the reason for my
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answer and did not
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repeat his request.
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--Moses ben Ezra of Granada,
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ca. 1120
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(Adapted from Juan Vernet)
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You must not sell books
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of science to Jews or
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Christians...because it
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happens that they translate
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these scientific books and
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attribute them to their own
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people, to their bishops, when
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they are indeed Moslem works.
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--Ibn Abdun, Eleventh Century
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(cited by Vernet & D'Alverny)
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We must consider the
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fact that translators
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did not have the words
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in Latin for translating
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scientific works,
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because they were not
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first composed in the
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Latin tongue. For
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this reason they employed
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very many words
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from other languages.
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--Roger Bacon, ca. 1268
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And it's often happened
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to us that we've searched
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and asked for fourteen
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days, even for three
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or four weeks, after
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a single word,
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and in all that time
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we haven't found it.
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--Martin Luther, 1530
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A man is worth
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as many men
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as he
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knows languages.
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--Charles V, ca. 1532
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NOTE:
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The full version
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of this program not
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only contains twice as
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much material as this
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one, but a complete
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bibliography and scholarly
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apparatus on all
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quotations is also provided.
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See the file
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ORDER.DOC
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if you wish to order
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the full version
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of this program.
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See the file README.1ST
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for further information
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about both programs.
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You can also print out
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the full text
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of this program,
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provided in the file
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ALLTEXT.ASC, by
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simply loading it into
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your word processor.
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Translation and Translators:
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Quotations Through the Ages
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From Ancient Sumeria
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To Molecular Biology
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will continue in
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